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		Mark Mag Gloade Forum Drifter
 
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				 Tue Sep 09, 2003 7:36 pm    Official Thread: Homecoming / The Farther Shore | 
			 
			
				
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				lets discuss the books
 
a warining there may be spoilers in here read with caution
 
first of all who knows the child that is often discussed like the age the stuff
 
i think it is janeway...........
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		The Delta Flyer Commodore
 
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				 Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:24 am     | 
			 
			
				
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				The child is a what-a-huh?
 
The book is good, didn't think it had as much impact as the first DS9 relaunch books, Avatar 1 & Avatar 2 but good nonetheless...at first, I didn't like Homecoming but after reading The Farther Shore, more of Homecoming made sense. I'm looking forward to re-reading both of the novels together rather than having a month gap in between  
 
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		Divinity Captain
  
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				 Thu Sep 11, 2003 6:32 am     | 
			 
			
				
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				 	  | Quote: | 	 		  who knows the child that is often discussed like the age the stuff 
 
i think it is janeway........... 
 
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i considered this to but have you read Mosaic? its the life story of janeway and it never mentioned anything like that. she seemed to have a really happy childhood and was really close to her dad so i dont know who it is. maybe its seven
 
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		Seven of Nine Sammie's Mammy
  
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				 Thu Sep 11, 2003 9:18 am     | 
			 
			
				
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				It's revealed who it is in the Further Shore.
 
 
 
It was the new Borg Queen
 
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		Divinity Captain
  
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				 Fri Sep 12, 2003 8:22 am     | 
			 
			
				
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				SPOILERS
 
the new borg  queen? interesting
 
 
i might be getting it tomorrow if theyve got it in the book shop yet   
 
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		The Delta Flyer Commodore
 
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				 Fri Sep 12, 2003 6:51 pm     | 
			 
			
				
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				Where do you live?
 
In the UK it came out in June and The Farther Shore in July. I've never seen either book in WHSmiths, only in Ottaker's down south. I ordered mine from Amazon though lol.
 
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		Mark Mag Gloade Forum Drifter
 
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				 Mon Sep 15, 2003 7:28 pm     | 
			 
			
				
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				well i am reading the farther shore
 
it is janeway...i think she was close to her biological father
 
and seven did not have a life in the ages they say
 
mabie it is ummm
 
dunno
 
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		Seven of Nine Sammie's Mammy
  
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				 Tue Sep 16, 2003 2:41 am     | 
			 
			
				
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				Maybe you should finish the Farther Shore  
 
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		The Delta Flyer Commodore
 
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				 Tue Sep 16, 2003 3:43 pm     | 
			 
			
				
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				Yeah, it's all explained at the end...
 
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		Mark Mag Gloade Forum Drifter
 
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				 Fri Sep 19, 2003 6:41 pm     | 
			 
			
				
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				well i have finished the book
 
and its well umm.....not gonna say
 
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		sabertooth1217 UPN Boycotter
 
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				 Fri Sep 19, 2003 6:43 pm     | 
			 
			
				
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				rate it 1-10
 
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		Mark Mag Gloade Forum Drifter
 
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				 Fri Sep 19, 2003 7:31 pm     | 
			 
			
				
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				outta 1-10 i owuld give it 1000000000000000000000000000000000000
 
it was a great books
 
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		The Delta Flyer Commodore
 
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				 Sat Sep 20, 2003 5:59 am     | 
			 
			
				
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				Homecoming 6/10 - I lost interest; it was too slow but had a great ending (Quite a good cliffhanger for a book)
 
 
The Farther Shore 9/10 - Alot faster and more action-packed than the first book. Also a good resolution, clearing up alot of the plot strands from the first book. In a way I wish some could have been left open so that they could have been furthered in future relaunch books. Again, a good ending.
 
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		Mark Mag Gloade Forum Drifter
 
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				 Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:21 pm     | 
			 
			
				
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				well we can discuss events but be caurful, there will be spoilers
 
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		The Delta Flyer Commodore
 
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				 Thu Sep 25, 2003 11:44 am     | 
			 
			
				
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				Lol, you said that at the beginning.
 
 
I wonder what the future relaunch books will be like? I somehow hope that they put Janeway back on board Voyager. It wouldn't be the same with Chakotay as Captain...
 
 
I wonder what themes the books will be based on...I hope that they maintain the same continuity exemplified in the DS9 relaunch...
 
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		Mark Mag Gloade Forum Drifter
 
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				 Fri Sep 26, 2003 7:03 pm     | 
			 
			
				
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				well we can hope, or just write them ourselves
 
and another thing about the books, there was a lot of action in them              
 
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		The Delta Flyer Commodore
 
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				 Sat Sep 27, 2003 4:13 am     | 
			 
			
				
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				I wish they'd put more detail in the action scenes in Trek books, try and build up the tension a bit. Do something a little more than "Janeway fired at two of them"...put a bit more detail in there...Maybe it's just me lol.
 
 
Just as a matter of interest how old are you all? I was wondering which age market reads the books. I'm 17...I always thought that the books were aimed at a much younger audience...
 
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		Mark Mag Gloade Forum Drifter
 
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				 Mon Sep 29, 2003 9:46 am     | 
			 
			
				
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				no
 
this book is almost meant for older kids because of the swearing and umm well the ' bad ' stuff said in them
 
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		The Delta Flyer Commodore
 
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				 Mon Sep 29, 2003 10:55 am     | 
			 
			
				
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				I think the books are aimed at young teens...besides even little kids seem to swear these days.
 
 
I was in the bank and this little kid and his mum were there. and the mum said something like "hold this for me" and the kid goes "f**k off!" 
 
 
I was horrified! I never even knew words like that existed when I was their age! Naive ignorant me lol...
 
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		Seven of Nine Sammie's Mammy
  
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				 Tue Sep 30, 2003 5:09 am     | 
			 
			
				
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				The main books are aimed at young adults. The Starfleet Academy books are aimed at younger readers.
 
 
I'm 17, btw  
 
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		The Delta Flyer Commodore
 
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				 Tue Sep 30, 2003 10:45 am     | 
			 
			
				
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				Generally speaking I read books that are designed for an older market (and by that I don't mean *beep* lol) so when I read the Trek books they sometimes seem a bit simplistic.
 
 
...and that sounded amazingly big-headed lol. It wasn't meant to sound that way.
 
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		Divinity Captain
  
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				i'll be 17 in january, my sister is 13 and she sort reads them but it takes her ages
 
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		GhostOfAMemory Star-crossed Voyager
  
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				oooo, I loved those books. I went nuts when I couldn't get the farther shore till over a month or 2 after I read homecoming. Eesh.  I give them both a 10... 2 thumbs up! I think the books are aimed at older teens/young adults. The 15-25 market, probably. I'm 15. I highly doubt they're aimed at younger teens, they use a lot of very complex words in there. I've expanded my vocabulary by about 10-15 words just from reading trek books, lol. Like portentous... what 12-13 year old knows what portentous means? Or conundrum. I just learned that word yesterday... haha. Yeah, trek books are aimed towards the slightly older audience.
 
 
PS: for all of you who don't know, the girl is Covington or whatever her name is. Harry's girlfriend's boss woman. I'm so mean... muahahaha   
 
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		Mark Mag Gloade Forum Drifter
 
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				well i knew that, i have read both books
 
and anyways there is some INNAPROATE STUFF IN THEM its sick, when i showed my parents they almost took the book back
 
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				I havent read this book yet. Though I have been trying to find a store that sells it. I have been able to find the latter.. But Homecoming is proving quite difficult.
 
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